Showing posts with label preseason coaches poll. Show all posts
Showing posts with label preseason coaches poll. Show all posts

Friday, August 5, 2011

Preseason USA Today "Coaches" Poll - Too Low

So 59 FBS coaches made their assistants and/or interns fill out a top 25 ballot while they themselves attended to more meaningful things, such as preparing their teams for the upcoming college football season. Good thing this process doesn't play a key role in determining the sport's champion. Anyway, here's the preseason top 25:

RKTEAMRECORDPTS
1Oklahoma (42)0-01454
2Alabama (13)0-01414
3Oregon (2)0-01309
4LSU (2)0-01296
5Florida State0-01116
6Stanford0-01101
7Boise State0-01065
8Oklahoma State0-0933
9Texas A&M0-0885
10Wisconsin0-0829
11Nebraska0-0814
12South Carolina0-0779
13Virginia Tech0-0767
14Arkansas0-0750
15TCU0-0687
16Ohio State0-0631
17Michigan State0-0536
18Notre Dame0-0440
19Auburn0-0329
20Mississippi State0-0301
21Missouri0-0266
22Georgia0-0260
23Florida0-0240
24Texas0-0162
25Penn State0-0161
  • Others receiving votes: Arizona State 158, West Virginia 149, Utah 50, Miami (FL) 49, Iowa 41, Northwestern 30, Arizona 28, UCF 22, Michigan 19, Air Force 15, North Carolina 14, Houston 13, South Florida 9, Hawaii 8, Clemson 7, Tennessee 7, Southern Miss 6, Brigham Young 5, North Carolina State 4, NORTHERNIL 4, Oregon State 4, Pittsburgh 3, Washington 3, Nevada 1, Georgia Tech 1,
We'll get to a deeper analysis of the teams and their conferences and such a little later this month. For now, we're focusing on who's overrated and who's underrated. Yesterday we did the teams that were too high in the poll; today's all about the teams not getting enough love.

TOO LOW

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Boise State at 7. Here we go again. Because Kyle Brotzman missed two kicks, a team that went 12-1 and returns 16 starters, including Heisman candidate (again) Kellen Moore and RB Doug Martin has to fight and scrap for even an iota of respect again. I'm not going to rant about this. But if you objectively compare this team to Florida State, there's no rational argument for this team being below the Noles. There just isn't. But Boise haters are like Tea Partiers - it doesn't matter what you say to them, they're set in their beliefs and won't change them no matter what. And the worst part is that a couple of spots in the polls could mean all the difference for the Broncos because of how this broken system is set up and how people will always continue to feel about them because of the conference they play in - or, more accurately, the one(s) it doesn't.

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TCU at 15. Here are some facts people don't realize. TCU is 25-1 in the past two years and 36-3 over the past three. The program has SEVEN double digit win seasons this past decade and that's not counting going 10-2 in 2000. It remains the last team to beat Oklahoma in Oklahoma Memorial Stadium - all the way back in 2005. And no one can use the Boise argument - since 05, TCU's been dealing with Utah and BYU in the Mountain West (and now it'll be dealing with Boise) and prior to that, it was in Conference USA with the red hot Louisville program that eventually jumped ship to the Big East. This is a true powerhouse. And now apparently, people think that because Andy Dalton's gone, this isn't an elite team anymore. Tank Carder returns to anchor the defense, which will dominate like pretty much every TCU defense in recent memory has. Imagine where Auburn would be ranked if Nick Fairley were back? There will be turnover on offense with Dalton and most of the line gone but there are plenty of running backs and receivers back. This is still a team that belongs far higher than 15.

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Notre Dame at 18. Michael Floyd's officially back on the team and now it's game on. To be fair, many if not all ballots were submitted when his status was in limbo but the reports have said he was likely going to play this year. Regardless, this is FAR too low for a team that brings back 17 of 22 starters, including Floyd and QB Dayne Crist. If those two stay healthy - a very, very big if - the Irish should make a run at the BCS. Floyd's the best receiver outside the Big 12 and possibly the best in the country. Manti Te'o is one of the best linebackers in the country. And Brian Kelly is a fantastic coach who was able to keep the team not only playing hard, but kicked it in to stride after the Declan Sullivan and Elizabeth Seeberg tragedies. Say what you will about how Kelly and the university handled themselves, but the Irish finally started to play up to their potential in the final four games. And let's not forget that their first two losses were because of a Denard Robinson Heisman performance and a fake field goal in overtime. The team lost focus during the Navy and Tulsa debacles but regained it in the last month of 2010 and now this year's team looks primed for a huge year. They should be in the top 15.

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Arizona State, unranked. If Texas can get ranked without making a bowl, why can't ASU? The Sun Devils actually won 6 games but two were against FCS teams. A cynic would say that two more were against Washington State and 4-8 UCLA but the counter to that is easy: of the 6 losses, two were by a point (@Wisconsin and @USC), one was by a field goal (@Oregon State), one was by four (Stanford) and one was by 11 (Oregon.) The only truly bad performance was a 50-17 meltdown at Cal but the Sun Devils were a tough-luck squad last season that showed considerable ability in pulling off nice road wins at Washington and rival Arizona and went 15 rounds with super heavyweights Wisconsin, Oregon and Stanford. They return 8 starters on offense, 7 on D and those don't include Brock Oswiler, a 6'8, 235 lb. junior who made the attack rock at the end of last season. This is one of those "it" teams that may (Arkansas last year) or may not (Ole Miss two years ago) work out but the truth, is that they're the top team on paper in the new Pac-12 South and they should at least be ranked.

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Wisconsin at 10. I like Texas A&M and I really like Oklahoma State. But there's no way the Badgers should be below either. This is another program that has become a powerhouse without a lot of people realizing it, having won double digit games in four out of the last six seasons. And over the second half of last season, no one had a better offense. The Badgers hung 83 on Indiana, 70 on Northwestern and at least 31 on everyone from October 9 until the end of the season. TCU's otherworldly defense shut them down in the Rose Bowl but they still only lost by the margin of a failed two point conversion at the end. They return 6 starters on each side of the ball and the loss of Scott Tolzien might be more than marginalized by the addition of Russell Wilson. Wilson, the only reason N.C. State was remotely respectable over the past few years, transferred out of the program like any sane human with considerable football talent would and now he's in Madison. Owner of the record for most consecutive passes without an interception (389), he'll fit right in to the ball control offense. They're closer to the top 5 than the teens, realistically.

Thursday, August 4, 2011

Preseason USA Today "Coaches" Poll - Too High

So 59 FBS coaches made their assistants and/or interns fill out a top 25 ballot while they themselves attended to more meaningful things, such as preparing their teams for the upcoming college football season. Good thing this process doesn't play a key role in determining the sport's champion. Anyway, here's the preseason top 25:

RKTEAMRECORDPTS
1Oklahoma (42)0-01454
2Alabama (13)0-01414
3Oregon (2)0-01309
4LSU (2)0-01296
5Florida State0-01116
6Stanford0-01101
7Boise State0-01065
8Oklahoma State0-0933
9Texas A&M0-0885
10Wisconsin0-0829
11Nebraska0-0814
12South Carolina0-0779
13Virginia Tech0-0767
14Arkansas0-0750
15TCU0-0687
16Ohio State0-0631
17Michigan State0-0536
18Notre Dame0-0440
19Auburn0-0329
20Mississippi State0-0301
21Missouri0-0266
22Georgia0-0260
23Florida0-0240
24Texas0-0162
25Penn State0-0161
  • Others receiving votes: Arizona State 158, West Virginia 149, Utah 50, Miami (FL) 49, Iowa 41, Northwestern 30, Arizona 28, UCF 22, Michigan 19, Air Force 15, North Carolina 14, Houston 13, South Florida 9, Hawaii 8, Clemson 7, Tennessee 7, Southern Miss 6, Brigham Young 5, North Carolina State 4, NORTHERNIL 4, Oregon State 4, Pittsburgh 3, Washington 3, Nevada 1, Georgia Tech 1,
We'll get to a deeper analysis of the teams and their conferences and such a little later this month. For now, we're focusing on who's overrated and who's underrated. We'll start with the teams that are too high and then the teams that are too low will be posted tomorrow.

TOO HIGH

-Florida State at 5. Really? A team that got BLASTED at Oklahoma, lost at freaking North Carolina State, lost at home to a depleted North Carolina and got lit up by Tyrod Taylor and Virginia Tech in the ACC Championship game is the fifth best team in the country? There's no doubting they're loaded with talent, but what if Marcus Lattimore wasn't knocked out of the first drive of the Chick Fil A Bowl and South Carolina wins? Are the Noles # 5 in this poll? Of course they're not. Are the Gamecocks as low as # 12? Of course they're not. Aside from the fact that bowl games are so frequently coin tosses (who reacts to the weeks off better, who's more motivated to be there, etc.), why are the Noles apparently getting so much credit for a 9 point win over an opponent without its best player? It's not just that though - Florida State is a brand name and beyond that, they're the favorite to win the ACC for the first time since 2006. They're a great team and should have a terrific season but to objectively put them this high in the preseason is asinine. One final thought - I saw these guys in person last November when our ACC title hopes were on the line. They handled us...but at no point did I think I was seeing anything resembling a top 10 team - and that's when they had Christian Ponder at QB.

-Penn State at 25. Really? A 7-6 team with a feeble offense that loses the school's all time leading rusher is ranked? How are they above a Utah team that went 10-3, losing only to Boise State (with no Jordan Wynn), TCU and Notre Dame (when not focused after the TCU loss) and returns Wynn as well as most of the rest of its offense, which brings in Norm Chow as its new coordinator for good measure? Brand name, brand name, brand name. But forget about Utah. How about looking within the Nittany Lions own conference? Iowa went 8-5, ripped PSU 24-3, throttled then-unbeaten Michigan State 37-6 and capped the season with a stunning upset of # 12 Missouri in the Insight Bowl (as opposed to the Nittany Lions getting handled 37-24 by an unranked Florida in the Capital One Bowl.) If you're gonna count bowl games like the pollsters apparently did with FSU/SC, why give Penn State a pass on their turnover-filled performance in theirs? I guess it's because their win over Temple was one of many victories they had over teams who won at least 8 games. Whoops, it was their only one.

-Arkansas at 14. Okay, great. Tyler Wilson ripped apart an atrocious Auburn secondary (apart from two interceptions) when Ryan Mallett got hurt. Suddenly, that makes him good enough to step in for by FAR the best quarterback in Razorback history? This is going to sound unfair considering the "brand name" argument I've been making...but Mallett took Arkansas to its highest heights since it joined the SEC. Not even Darren McFadden, Felix Jones and Peyton Hillis could take the Hogs to a BCS bowl, but Mallett did. Here's the problem: the year after those three left, Arkansas went 5-7. Fine, that won't happen again but this program isn't a power - it can't just overcome a loss like Mallett (and D.J. Williams) right away. Wilson's unproven, this program is unproven in the aftermath of one of its best players in school history and 14's just too high. Some of the teams right below the Hogs should absolutely be above them but we'll get to that tomorrow :)

-Auburn at 19. They're the lowest a mythical national champion has been ranked in the preseason USA Today poll...and they're not low enough. Six starters return. Not on offense or defense - six starters total. Neither Cam Newton nor Nick Fairley are among that six and we still have no idea if Gene Chizik can actually coach. Yes, Gus Malzahn's an offensive genius - maybe one of the best offensive minds of our generation - and it's a minor miracle no one (SUCH AS MARYLAND) has hired him away to be a head coach...but there's just not a lot to work with on offense right now besides the running game. Michael Dyer and Ontario McCalebb are both studs but the offensive line is pretty much completely green, as is the passing game. The defense wasn't even that great last year - and the pass defense was atrocious - and it too is being completely revamped. Even special teams are breaking in new starters! Mississippi State, who they beat by 3 early in the season before the Bulldogs started to gel, should no doubt be above them at the very least.

-Georgia at 22. I'm a sucker for the Dawgs. I always am. Not sure why. Maybe it's because everyone else usually underrates them and they very easily get lost in the SEC shuffle since they're the one "superpower" that hasn't won a MNC in the BCS era (yes, Tennessee got the first one all the way back in 98.) But people don't realize that the 2002 team was absolutely loaded and got unlucky that (a) it choked in the Cocktail Party (like it usually does) and (b) they were the top one loss team in a year with two unbeatens (Miami and Ohio State.) But anyway, there's no defending this ranking. They went 6-7 last year. Not one of their wins was over a team that finished with a winning record. The last time they played, they scored 6 points in a 10-6 loss to UCF in the Liberty Bowl. And they return just 11 starters total, one of whom not being A.J. Green, who carried their offense for most of the season. I honestly want to know: what's the argument for this team being ranked? THEY FUCKING LOST TO COLORADO FOR GOD'S SAKE.

And with that inappropriate outburst, we'll cap this post. Check back tomorrow for the teams who are underrated in the "coaches" poll. Can you tell that I hate that I care so much about college football? Just wait until November and December.